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This seems like a reasonable step forward.

I'd request that the editor consider the impact of these changes on the "alternate representative" role to make sure that role still works as expected/desired. I trust the editor's judgment on this interaction.

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frivoal commented Jul 4, 2025

The proposed text has mentions member associations, and therefore has a dependency on https://github.com/w3c/board/issues/249

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Language tweaks for clarity.

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Looks good with either of the suggested fixes by @TallTed.

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The Revising W3C Process CG just discussed https://github.com/w3c/process/pull/937.

The full IRC log of that discussion <brent> subtopic: https://github.com//pull/937
<brent> Github: https://github.com//pull/937
<Ian> Florian: There was a recent discussion that did not yet converge. I think there is going to be a survey to gather more information.
<Ian> ...let's postpone this one.
<Ian> Brent: Yes, Board and AB are looking at this.

@frivoal frivoal marked this pull request as draft January 20, 2026 09:31
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See w3c/AB-memberonly#247

Co-authored-by: fantasai <fantasai.bugs@inkedblade.net>
Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
The Process only needs to concern itself with the fact that the bylaws
define that Consortium Members have Consortium Member Representatives,
and that some Members (in the sense of the Process) do not qualify to be
Consortium Members (and thus don't have a C.M.Rep.). It does not need to
concern itself with why the bylaws exclude some organisations from being
Consortium Members, and therefore reducing the interdependency is
desirable: this allows the bylaws to evolve the criteria if needed,
without needing any revision in the Process.
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frivoal commented Jan 20, 2026

This PR is still a work-in-progress, and it is neither certain that we will decide to do this, nor that these are the exact right words for doing it. But in the spirit of trying to see what it would look like if we did, I have made an additional commit (4634789) to reduce the coupling with the bylaws.

The Process only needs to concern itself with the fact that the bylaws define that Consortium Members have Consortium Member Representatives, and that some Members (in the sense of the Process) do not qualify to be Consortium Members (and thus don't have a C.M.Rep.). It does not need to concern itself with why the bylaws exclude some organizations from being Consortium Members, and therefore reducing the interdependence is desirable: this allows the bylaws to evolve the criteria if needed (including possibly to address https://github.com/w3c/board/issues/249), without needing any revision in the Process.

I also made a minor edit, in response to @t in #937 (review), to clarify what that means for the alternate AC Rep.

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